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	<title>Comments on: Tech Updates: Northwave, Campy and more</title>
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		<title>By: ~50YrsOldLoveToRide</title>
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		<dc:creator>~50YrsOldLoveToRide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:  This part of the Campy 12-29 review:&lt;br&gt;&quot;In fact, the new 12-29 cogs paired with a compact 50-34 crankset permits gear combinations similar to those of a 53-42-30 triple crank.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s dandy.  I live in Wilson, Wyoming, at the base of Teton Pass, max gradient ~10% (some say parts are steeper . . .) over est. 5.2 miles.  I ride other long hills as well.  The remark and the product review notes generally both seem to emphasize the effect of the 29 tooth cog on climbing, particularly with a compact 50-34 crankset.  I use a compact and welcome a 29-tooth cog.  Yippee!  But what goes up also goes down.  As a rider who covers lots of mountainous terrain, I spend my share of time descending, usually less than 10% . . . and spinning out on my current 50-12 combination.  At about 38-40 mph my cadence gets so high that little power goes into the pedals - and lots of effort gets wasted on keeping my legs in motion.  Would you please ask Matt P or Leonard Z to compare the ratios for a 12-29 cogset on a standard, 54-39 front crankset?  I&#039;d like to be able to push the speed downhill instead of tucking at 39mph - hence my interest in a downhill 54-12 combination.  But if a 39-29 combination is WORSE than my current best climbing option (34-25), then I&#039;ll know not to go with a standard front crankset, and instead be content with the downhill limits of 50-12.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  This part of the Campy 12-29 review:<br />&#8220;In fact, the new 12-29 cogs paired with a compact 50-34 crankset permits gear combinations similar to those of a 53-42-30 triple crank.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#39;s dandy.  I live in Wilson, Wyoming, at the base of Teton Pass, max gradient ~10% (some say parts are steeper . . .) over est. 5.2 miles.  I ride other long hills as well.  The remark and the product review notes generally both seem to emphasize the effect of the 29 tooth cog on climbing, particularly with a compact 50-34 crankset.  I use a compact and welcome a 29-tooth cog.  Yippee!  But what goes up also goes down.  As a rider who covers lots of mountainous terrain, I spend my share of time descending, usually less than 10% . . . and spinning out on my current 50-12 combination.  At about 38-40 mph my cadence gets so high that little power goes into the pedals &#8211; and lots of effort gets wasted on keeping my legs in motion.  Would you please ask Matt P or Leonard Z to compare the ratios for a 12-29 cogset on a standard, 54-39 front crankset?  I&#39;d like to be able to push the speed downhill instead of tucking at 39mph &#8211; hence my interest in a downhill 54-12 combination.  But if a 39-29 combination is WORSE than my current best climbing option (34-25), then I&#39;ll know not to go with a standard front crankset, and instead be content with the downhill limits of 50-12.</p>
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		<title>By: lencarlman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:  This part of the Campy 12-29 review:&lt;br&gt;&quot;In fact, the new 12-29 cogs paired with a compact 50-34 crankset permits gear combinations similar to those of a 53-42-30 triple crank.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s dandy.  I live in Wilson, Wyoming, at the base of Teton Pass, max gradient ~10% (some say parts are steeper . . .) over est. 5.2 miles.  I ride other long hills as well.  The remark and the product review notes generally both seem to emphasize the effect of the 29 tooth cog on climbing, particularly with a compact 50-34 crankset.  I use a compact and welcome a 29-tooth cog.  Yippee!  But what goes up also goes down.  As a rider who covers lots of mountainous terrain, I spend my share of time descending, usually less than 10% . . . and spinning out on my current 50-12 combination.  At about 38-40 mph my cadence gets so high that little power goes into the pedals - and lots of effort gets wasted on keeping my legs in motion.  Would you please ask Matt P or Leonard Z to compare the ratios for a 12-29 cogset on a standard, 54-39 front crankset?  I&#039;d like to be able to push the speed downhill instead of tucking at 39mph - hence my interest in a downhill 54-12 combination.  But if a 39-29 combination is WORSE than my current best climbing option (34-25), then I&#039;ll know not to go with a standard front crankset, and instead be content with the downhill limits of 50-12.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  This part of the Campy 12-29 review:<br />&#8220;In fact, the new 12-29 cogs paired with a compact 50-34 crankset permits gear combinations similar to those of a 53-42-30 triple crank.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#39;s dandy.  I live in Wilson, Wyoming, at the base of Teton Pass, max gradient ~10% (some say parts are steeper . . .) over est. 5.2 miles.  I ride other long hills as well.  The remark and the product review notes generally both seem to emphasize the effect of the 29 tooth cog on climbing, particularly with a compact 50-34 crankset.  I use a compact and welcome a 29-tooth cog.  Yippee!  But what goes up also goes down.  As a rider who covers lots of mountainous terrain, I spend my share of time descending, usually less than 10% . . . and spinning out on my current 50-12 combination.  At about 38-40 mph my cadence gets so high that little power goes into the pedals &#8211; and lots of effort gets wasted on keeping my legs in motion.  Would you please ask Matt P or Leonard Z to compare the ratios for a 12-29 cogset on a standard, 54-39 front crankset?  I&#39;d like to be able to push the speed downhill instead of tucking at 39mph &#8211; hence my interest in a downhill 54-12 combination.  But if a 39-29 combination is WORSE than my current best climbing option (34-25), then I&#39;ll know not to go with a standard front crankset, and instead be content with the downhill limits of 50-12.</p>
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