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	<title>Comments on: Floyd Landis to ride for Bahati Foundation team</title>
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		<title>By: xxx</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 20:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the low way to get famous i think</description>
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		<title>By: shepba</title>
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		<dc:creator>shepba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 03:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that Landis, if he truly is innocent, has an unwavering conviction to proclaiming just that.  Those who say that he should have admitted guilt base their assumptions on yet another assumption: that he is guilty.  I am a practicing physician with an intricate knowledge of the human body and biochemistry.  One isssue in Landis&#039; case that has bothered me since the beginning is the fact that an elevated level of testosterone was detected in his blood sample.  Testosterone is a terrific method of cheating if a person is using it for months ahead of a major athletic event.  It increases the body&#039;s ability to build lean skeletal muscle.  Testosterone does not, however, provide any sort of an immediate effect on the human body.  It baffles me that with such a myriad of drugs to choose from and with the availability of exogenous erythropoietin, that a cycling team physician would opt to use a substance with a very low benefit yield and a frank ease of detection.  So as for his future endeavors, I wish him luck and regret that we will not have the fortune of seeing him race again in the grand tours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sure that Landis, if he truly is innocent, has an unwavering conviction to proclaiming just that.  Those who say that he should have admitted guilt base their assumptions on yet another assumption: that he is guilty.  I am a practicing physician with an intricate knowledge of the human body and biochemistry.  One isssue in Landis&#039; case that has bothered me since the beginning is the fact that an elevated level of testosterone was detected in his blood sample.  Testosterone is a terrific method of cheating if a person is using it for months ahead of a major athletic event.  It increases the body&#039;s ability to build lean skeletal muscle.  Testosterone does not, however, provide any sort of an immediate effect on the human body.  It baffles me that with such a myriad of drugs to choose from and with the availability of exogenous erythropoietin, that a cycling team physician would opt to use a substance with a very low benefit yield and a frank ease of detection.  So as for his future endeavors, I wish him luck and regret that we will not have the fortune of seeing him race again in the grand tours.</p>
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		<title>By: disqus983</title>
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		<dc:creator>disqus983</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, so it&#039;s the company he keeps!  What put this farce into play was a lab that didn&#039;t follow scientific procedure it didn&#039;t even understand, (too sad, you&#039;re still bad) and the subsequent lawyers, lab techs and a perfect CAS that hasn&#039;t lost (and isn&#039;t about to lose) a case in years. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pee in the bottle and we&#039;ll take it from there....................trust us........we have a magic marker.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, so it&#039;s the company he keeps!  What put this farce into play was a lab that didn&#039;t follow scientific procedure it didn&#039;t even understand, (too sad, you&#039;re still bad) and the subsequent lawyers, lab techs and a perfect CAS that hasn&#039;t lost (and isn&#039;t about to lose) a case in years. Pee in the bottle and we&#039;ll take it from there&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..trust us&#8230;&#8230;..we have a magic marker&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: disqus983</title>
		<link>http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/03/news/floyd-landis-to-ride-for-bahati-foundation-team_107543/comment-page-4#comment-4654</link>
		<dc:creator>disqus983</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you a screenwriter or playwright?  &#039;Cause your suppositions and propositions are no more than the proverbial pissin&#039; up a rope reality.  But maybe you enjoy the results.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you a screenwriter or playwright?  &#039;Cause your suppositions and propositions are no more than the proverbial pissin&#039; up a rope reality.  But maybe you enjoy the results&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hodgson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Hodgson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landis sat at a table ,while his manager phoned Lemond the night before the trial and threatened to expose his problems of childhood, if he didn&#039;t re-think his testimony.&lt;br&gt;One of his associates , just happened to hack into the french anti-doping labs on his fiile.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But of course he knew nothing of these events.&lt;br&gt;I would not throw him under the bus , just for his doping offence , but he has left a bit of a tainted legacy allround ....... it&#039;s not just about the dope test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Landis sat at a table ,while his manager phoned Lemond the night before the trial and threatened to expose his problems of childhood, if he didn&#039;t re-think his testimony.One of his associates , just happened to hack into the french anti-doping labs on his fiile.But of course he knew nothing of these events.I would not throw him under the bus , just for his doping offence , but he has left a bit of a tainted legacy allround &#8230;&#8230;. it&#039;s not just about the dope test.</p>
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		<title>By: echingus</title>
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		<dc:creator>echingus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....Hope to see Floyd rejoin the ranks of the competetive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.Hope to see Floyd rejoin the ranks of the competetive!</p>
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		<title>By: sarahmia02</title>
		<link>http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/03/news/floyd-landis-to-ride-for-bahati-foundation-team_107543/comment-page-3#comment-4602</link>
		<dc:creator>sarahmia02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We saw this with Greg then Lance and now Floyd, if we, THEY,  don&#039;t want you to win the TDF then we&#039;ll find a way to keep you out of the race or at least make it much harder for you to succeed in Europe.  The anti-American under tones are there and if you don&#039;t see them then yes you do have your head up your a--.  Let&#039;s be real there is a much bigger problem in pro cycling than doping.  Just watch what would happen if, God willing, another American railed off two ot three TDF wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We saw this with Greg then Lance and now Floyd, if we, THEY,  don&#039;t want you to win the TDF then we&#039;ll find a way to keep you out of the race or at least make it much harder for you to succeed in Europe.  The anti-American under tones are there and if you don&#039;t see them then yes you do have your head up your a&#8211;.  Let&#039;s be real there is a much bigger problem in pro cycling than doping.  Just watch what would happen if, God willing, another American railed off two ot three TDF wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ride Hard, Floyd. Let your results do the talking...</description>
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		<title>By: sarahmia02</title>
		<link>http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/03/news/floyd-landis-to-ride-for-bahati-foundation-team_107543/comment-page-3#comment-4540</link>
		<dc:creator>sarahmia02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many pro&#039;s have cheated?  How many neo&#039;s cheat?  How many master&#039;s and Cat 2-3 riders would cheat if they had the money?  Who doesn&#039;t want to be faster, stronger and better?  I know I know but it&#039;s cheating!  Look when you&#039;re ready to stop the &quot;dog pile&quot; on Floyd let us know.  Can you let the guy race his bike and see what the results are before we decide to put him on an island for the rest of his life???  He is being black balled by all UCI teams so what is he supposed to do race on his own one man team in Europe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many pro&#039;s have cheated?  How many neo&#039;s cheat?  How many master&#039;s and Cat 2-3 riders would cheat if they had the money?  Who doesn&#039;t want to be faster, stronger and better?  I know I know but it&#039;s cheating!  Look when you&#039;re ready to stop the &#8220;dog pile&#8221; on Floyd let us know.  Can you let the guy race his bike and see what the results are before we decide to put him on an island for the rest of his life???  He is being black balled by all UCI teams so what is he supposed to do race on his own one man team in Europe?</p>
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		<title>By: JackieChan</title>
		<link>http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/03/news/floyd-landis-to-ride-for-bahati-foundation-team_107543/comment-page-3#comment-32668</link>
		<dc:creator>JackieChan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Floyd just wants to ride his bike, for crying out loud!  What is he taking away from you?  Did you just rip up that fat check you were going to mail to the Bahati Foundation?

Floyd lost his good name, his fortune, his house, his marriage, and now realizes that no big team will hire him because people like you act like he stole your children or something.  So he takes a job riding for a team that can barely afford to pay him.  Beats unemployment, right?

I know this irks many of you out there, but Floyd SERVED HIS TIME.  If you want to ban him for life, then go take it up with the UCI and have the rules changed.  Otherwise, let the man be.

Floyd has my respect for just plugging away at it and Kudos to Bahati for giving him an hand. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Floyd just wants to ride his bike, for crying out loud!  What is he taking away from you?  Did you just rip up that fat check you were going to mail to the Bahati Foundation?</p>
<p>Floyd lost his good name, his fortune, his house, his marriage, and now realizes that no big team will hire him because people like you act like he stole your children or something.  So he takes a job riding for a team that can barely afford to pay him.  Beats unemployment, right?</p>
<p>I know this irks many of you out there, but Floyd SERVED HIS TIME.  If you want to ban him for life, then go take it up with the UCI and have the rules changed.  Otherwise, let the man be.</p>
<p>Floyd has my respect for just plugging away at it and Kudos to Bahati for giving him an hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points. The whole process seems to be a bit &quot;messy.&quot; As such I think it warrants a critical examination. While I believe that cheaters should be banned, I also am not comfortable with allowing the agencies absolute power with no accountability.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points. The whole process seems to be a bit &#8220;messy.&#8221; As such I think it warrants a critical examination. While I believe that cheaters should be banned, I also am not comfortable with allowing the agencies absolute power with no accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: Dino</title>
		<link>http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/03/news/floyd-landis-to-ride-for-bahati-foundation-team_107543/comment-page-3#comment-32660</link>
		<dc:creator>Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They fined Floyd $100,000 for having the temerity to vigorously defend himself.  If you don&#039;t recognize that as a symptom of a broken system, I can only conclude you&#039;re wearing Dick Pound&#039;s sphincter as a hat band.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They fined Floyd $100,000 for having the temerity to vigorously defend himself.  If you don&#8217;t recognize that as a symptom of a broken system, I can only conclude you&#8217;re wearing Dick Pound&#8217;s sphincter as a hat band.</p>
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		<title>By: VPaulus</title>
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		<dc:creator>VPaulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is worth noting, however, that there have been riders who have managed to overturn initial positives (Inigo Landaluze and Iban Mayo - both for testosterone in &#039;05 and &#039;07 respectively) due to procedural errors during testing.  What is so interesting is that both riders were then later positive within a few years (Mayo for EPO in &#039;07 and Landaluze for CERA in &#039;09) with sanctions imposed.  Landaluze&#039;s case is relevant as CAS noted that doping was probable but a sanction could not be imposed due to the aforementioned issues in testing.  Both riders seemingly did not get &quot;scared straight&quot; and eventually paid for it.  Seeing as neither rider could be considered &quot;small fish&quot; at the time it is not fair to say that no cyclist has ever beaten UCI, WADA, AFLD et al...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is worth noting, however, that there have been riders who have managed to overturn initial positives (Inigo Landaluze and Iban Mayo &#8211; both for testosterone in &#8217;05 and &#8217;07 respectively) due to procedural errors during testing.  What is so interesting is that both riders were then later positive within a few years (Mayo for EPO in &#8217;07 and Landaluze for CERA in &#8217;09) with sanctions imposed.  Landaluze&#8217;s case is relevant as CAS noted that doping was probable but a sanction could not be imposed due to the aforementioned issues in testing.  Both riders seemingly did not get &#8220;scared straight&#8221; and eventually paid for it.  Seeing as neither rider could be considered &#8220;small fish&#8221; at the time it is not fair to say that no cyclist has ever beaten UCI, WADA, AFLD et al&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: April Says</title>
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		<dc:creator>April Says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe Tyler, opps I mean Floyd</description>
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		<title>By: Simon Says</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe Tyler, opps I meant Floyd</description>
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		<title>By: Trikend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trikend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long must people pay for a crime, an indiscretion, or bad judgement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long must people pay for a crime, an indiscretion, or bad judgement?</p>
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		<title>By: The Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Mantis&quot; should give it up.  He was a domestique for years and then became a tour GC contender in one season.  They should just ban cheaters for life.  That would settle the doping issue in cycling for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Mantis&#8221; should give it up.  He was a domestique for years and then became a tour GC contender in one season.  They should just ban cheaters for life.  That would settle the doping issue in cycling for good.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatCatsNameIsJake</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatCatsNameIsJake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holmovka:  Here is another way to look at it:  Floyd had lost the tour the day before he got caught.  He knew that winning would put him on easy street for the rest of his career.  He went for broke, took the dope and gambled with the results.  He got caught.  Testosterone aides recovery and makes you aggressive.  Do you think Floyd was an overly aggressive rider on the day he caught?  As Dick Pound said &quot;You’d think he’d be violating every virgin within 100 miles.&quot;  Other cycling pros have admitted to using testosterone.  Pros do not want you to know what works and what doesn&#039;t and what they are taking.  Creating ambiguity with regards to testosterone is part of Floyd&#039;s defense, along with drinking whiskey the night before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holmovka:  Here is another way to look at it:  Floyd had lost the tour the day before he got caught.  He knew that winning would put him on easy street for the rest of his career.  He went for broke, took the dope and gambled with the results.  He got caught.  Testosterone aides recovery and makes you aggressive.  Do you think Floyd was an overly aggressive rider on the day he caught?  As Dick Pound said &#8220;You’d think he’d be violating every virgin within 100 miles.&#8221;  Other cycling pros have admitted to using testosterone.  Pros do not want you to know what works and what doesn&#039;t and what they are taking.  Creating ambiguity with regards to testosterone is part of Floyd&#039;s defense, along with drinking whiskey the night before.</p>
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		<title>By: KDGordo</title>
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		<dc:creator>KDGordo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad Landis can&#039;t bring his &quot;twin&quot; brother, Tyler Hamilton, into the mix to improve the publicity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You all know that Landis was the unborn twin Hamilton used in his defense, right? They were actually separated at birth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad Landis can&#039;t bring his &#8220;twin&#8221; brother, Tyler Hamilton, into the mix to improve the publicity.You all know that Landis was the unborn twin Hamilton used in his defense, right? They were actually separated at birth.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who the heck puts up a web site proclaiming themselves to be &quot;an american hero&quot;?

I feel sorry for riders like Josh Berry - any results they get this year will be overshadowed by coverage of their teammate.
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<p>I feel sorry for riders like Josh Berry &#8211; any results they get this year will be overshadowed by coverage of their teammate.</p>
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